LOST: “The Substitute”

As I noted last week, Kate episodes tend toward mediocrity. But Locke episodes tend to be awesome, and tonight’s was no exception (even if, technically, it was only half Locke-centric).

Spoilers from tonight’s episode and more after the jump.

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Observations and speculations

  • The episode begins with Locke driving a van into a suburban SoCal neighborhood that looks an awful lot like the place where Locke once, as a house inspector, met Sayid’s long-lost love, Nadia.
  • One of our first indications that Locke is different in the LA-X universe is that, when his wheelchair ramp fails, he falls onto the grass and the automatic sprinklers start, he doesn’t cry or lash out in frustration, but he laughs. This is a different from the one who needed anger management. (But if he didn’t need anger management, where would he have met Helen?)
  • Recall that Helen (as played by Katey Segal) had previously been in a long-term relationship with Locke, but had left him (and refused his marriage proposal) because Locke could not end his obsession with his father, Anthony Cooper (the con man also known as Sawyer). In LA-X, Helen talks about running to Vegas with “my parents and your dad.” Obviously, the dynamic is very, very different in this universe if Helen and Locke are considering inviting Anthony Cooper to the wedding. But If Locke and Cooper are on friendly terms, how did Locke become paralyzed to begin with?
  • Things aren’t perfect between Locke and Helen, however, as John lied to Helen about his reason for going to Australia.
  • I liked the way that Locke referred to meeting Jack at “Lost Luggage” and said “he lost something too.” Even in LA-X, the characters are still somewhat “lost.”
  • Helen suggests that meeting Jack was “Destiny.” She’s willing to push Locke toward the type of belief that he (would have) had on the Island. LA-X Locke, however, seems reluctant to believe.
  • Smoke Monster POV-cam is pure awesomeness. Check out the smokey reflection in the window outside Sawyer’s bungalow in DHARMAville. That was a nice touch.
  • Smokie/Not-Locke finds a machette in the jungle that looks familiar. Does anyone know where we’ve seen it before?
  • Meanwhile, back in LA-X, John Locke is still working for a box manufacturer and his mid-level manager is Randy Nations, the same tool who used to manage Hurley at Mr. Clucks before the restaurant was hit by a meteor (before Hurley bought Mr. Clucks and the box manufacturer). Hurley’s observation that Randy is a “huge douche” is spot-on.
  • Although it only flashes on the screen for a second, on Locke’s cubical wall are pinned two snapshots: one of Locke and Helen on vacation in Hawaii and another of a younger Locke with a beret-wearing Anthony Cooper, probably hunting—more evidence that in the LA-X universe Locke and Cooper are on good terms.
  • Here’s an apology that you don’t hear every day: “I’m sorry I hit you in the throat and dragged you off the beach, but I had to do something.”
  • It’s interesting that Richard apparently has been doing Jacob’s bidding and running errands without getting any real explanations. (No explanations for the obvious questions? That sounds familiar.)
  • Not-Locke’s statement that “people seldom get a second chance” had an ominous sound to it.
  • The first time that Not-Locke sees the blond-haired kid, his forearms and hands appear to be smeared with blood. Very creepy. When he sees him again later, there is no blood noticeable. Richard does not seem to see the kid. Maybe this is because Richard is not a candidate. It reminds me of how Locke (and Hurley) could see Jacob, but Ben never could (well, before he killed him, anyway)—Ben, after all, is not a candidate either. Sawyer is, and he can see the blond kid.
  • Ben, being a lying liar who lies, tells yet another untruth about the way Jacob died. I can’t say I totally blame him, though. I don’t think telling Ilana that he killed Jacob would be healthy at this particular juncture.
  • Ilana scoops up some of the Jacob ash from the fire and puts it into a satchel, the same sort of satchel that Bram had on him just before he killed, the one he used to make a protective ring around himself.
  • Ilana tells Ben that Not-Locke carried Richard out into the jungle because “he’s recruiting.” And she seems to be right. Not-Locke did try to get Richard to align with him, just as he tries to get Sawyer to as well, with greater success.
  • When Not-Locke goes to visit Sawyer in DHARMAville, sawyer is listening to the song “Search and Destroy” by Iggy Pop and the Stooges, the first track off of the Stooges’ 1973 album “Raw Power.” If Richard is correct in his assessment of Not-Locke, “Search and Destroy” is exactly what Not-Locke is up to. Raw Power by The StoogesSample lyrics:

    I’m a street walking cheetah
    with a heart full of napalm
    I’m a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
    I am a world’s forgotten boy
    The one who searches and destroys

  • Not-Locke finds Sawyer sitting on the floor in a wife-beater, drinking DHARMA whiskey from a bottle, looking completely wasted. Note that this is the first interaction that Sawyer and Locke have had since Locke disappeared down the well in a flash at the beginning of season 5.
  • Sawyer is very intuitive, a skill that served him well during his conman past. Even drunk, he’s the only character to realize, and realize almost immediately, that Not-Locke is not Locke.
  • Not-Locke seems to be overselling the Most Important Question in the World a bit. The most important? Really? My favorite Sawyer line of the episode: “Well, I guess I better put some pants on.” Josh Halloway owns this character, and has really grown as an actor. He holds his own with Terry O’Quinn remarkably well.
  • Hugo “the luckiest man in the world” Reyes is a very easy going guy. Even though LA-X may not prove to be resilient, it’s nice to see Hurley so happy.
  • The little sand crab on Locke’s corpse near the 3-toed statue was a nice touch.
  • Ilana knows about the temple. Maybe she’s even been there. Ilana and her crew appear to be nothing much more than a subset of Others, though ones who were specifically tasked with protecting Jacob.
  • Blond kid (who Sawyer can see) looks a lot like a youthful version of Jacob to me. I’m not sure if that’s the intent, or what to make of it, but that’s my observation.
  • Blond kid tells Not-Locke: “You know the rules. You can’t kill him.” Of course, we don’t get any of the required antecedent to make sense of this statement. Here’s one theory: the Man in Black is trapped on the island as long as the island is protected. To make sure that it won’t be protected, he has taken it upon himself to hunt down and kill each of the people on Jacob’s list—each of the candidates—so that the island will go unprotected and he can free himself.
  • Not-Locke responds in very Lockean style: “Don’t tell me what I can’t do.”
  • Richard tries to get Sawyer to go to the Temple and tells Sawyer that Not-Locke will kill him and “everyone you care about&dmash;everyone you care about, and he won’t stop—” This fits nicely with the Candidate-Search-and-Destroy theory above.
  • Back in LA-X, Locke is at the temp agency trying to get a job. After losing patience with the lower-level agent, Locke speaks with the office supervisor, who turns out to be Rose. It’s interesitng that even in the LA-X universe, all of the characters’ lives are still intertwined. And they follow basically the same trajectories as they did before, with really only slight variations.
  • Rose has come to terms with her terminal cancer and is successful in getting Locke to accept his own limitations.
  • Sawyer tells Not-Locke about the novel Of Mice and Men. The book has be referenced a couple of times before. Sawyer was reading it in prison in Arizona during a flashback in the third season, then Ben quotes a passage from the book to Sawyer while playing mind games with him on Hydra Island. Sawyer’s retelling to Not-Locke twists the story’s ending: George doesn’t kill Lenney because Lenny is slowing him down, but as a mercy killing to spare Lenny from the angry mob that is after him for accidentally killing the farmer’s daughter.
  • Not-Locke: “What I am is trapped. … But before I was trapped, I was a man, just like you.”
  • Ilana claims that the Man in Black can’t change his face anymore, that “he’s stuck this way” (in Locke’s image). This is interesting, but also curious. Last season, when Ben confronts the Smoke Monster, many of speculated that the Locke made himself scarce in Clark Kent-like fashion right before Ben’s visit, and the Smoke Monster took on the image of Alex in order to persuade Ben. If that’s the case, then Ilana’s statement doesn’t seem to make much sense. Unless this condition only becomes permanent after Jacob is killed.
  • Ilana, Ben, Sun and Lapidus visit the beach graveyard to bury Locke’s body. Also buried there include Boone, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby, Nikki and Paolo.
  • Ben’s eulogy was brilliant: “John Locke was a believer, he was a man of faith. He was a much better man than I will ever be. And I’m very sorry I murdered him.” I also liked Lapidus’ aside: “The weirdest damn funeral I’ve ever been to.”
  • Back in LA-X, when Locke makes an aborted attempt to call Jack’s office, Helen confronts him about it. She’s wearing a t-shirt that says “Peace & Karma,” extending the theme earlier in the episode that she could be a catalyst for Locke’s belief in destiny.
  • Locke admits that he didn’t go to the conference, but also was unable to go on his walkabout. In fact, it seems to have gone down pretty much the way it did prior to the crash of Oceanic 815.
  • Anyone else think that Not-Locke was setting Sawyer up for a nasty spill down some seaside volcanic rock? I think that’s what we were meant to think. But instead, Not-Locke was guiding Sawyer to Jacob’s ocean-view cave.
  • Wry and funny moment: when Not-Lock/The Man in Black removes the white rock from the scales and throws it out to sea, then refers to it as an “inside joke.” The black/white theme has been around since that original exposition of Locke’s to Walt on the game of backgammon. Recall also that Jack found two stones, one black and one white along with the remains of Adam and Eve in the Cave.
  • Inside Jacob’s sea-cave is, apparently, the notorious “Jacob’s list.” And, interestingly, the Numbers correspond to Oceanic 815 survivors, as follows:
    4 – (John) Locke
    8 – (Hurley) Reyes
    15 – (James) Ford (aka Sawyer)
    16 – (Sayid) Jarrad
    23 – (Jack – long odds on Christian) Shepard
    42 – (Jin or Sun) Kwon
    Not-Locke says that “Jacob had a thing for numbers.”
  • In the final LA-X scene, Locke is seen working as a substitute teacher in an LA high school. There, he meets Ben Linus, a European History teacher. It’s a funny moment, but it’s also a head-scratcher. How does Ben Linus come to be teaching in LA, in this timeline? Think about it, young Ben seemed to be in the care fo the Others (where he was brought by Kate after being shot by Sayid) at the time of the Incident in 1977. How could he be off-island? I suppose there’s a small possibility that he was reintroduced to the DHARMA people in time to be sequestered on the sub with the last few evacuees, but it doesn’t seem likely.
  • Back in Jacob’s cave, we get close-ups of Jacob’s list. Some of the crossed-out names are identifiable as well, including:
    Littleton (Claire? Aaron’s also a possiblity. He could be crossed off because he’s gone off-island.)
    Troup (presumably Gary, author of Bad Twin, sucked into the jet engine of Oceanic 815)
    Faraday (Daniel)
    Goodspeed (Horace, Olivia and Ethan are all possibilities here)
    Lewis (possibly Charlotte or one of her parents)
    Rutherford (Shannon?)
    Jones (a soldier in the U.S. army, killed by the Others)

    There were also some names that I didn’t recognize, including O’Toole, Dominguez,

  • Not-Locke tells Sawyer that there’s really nothing to protect the island from and that “it will be perfectly fine without Jacob, or you, or any of the other people whose lives he wasted.” This could be part of the Man in Black’s deceit. Or it could be true. I’m confident that at some point, we will find out.
  • Not-Locke also tells Sawyer that “together,” they can get the hell of the Island. It’s clear that the Man in Black can’t do it on his own, only with help. It’s not clear that what he wants is realy in the best interest of Sawyer, or anyone else.
  • Just one last speculation: it makes sense that if the Losties are “candidates” that the Temple Others would feel compelled to protect them. Notably absent from the list is Kate, which means she’s in a perilous situation.

I thought this episode was excellent. Unlike last week’s episode, there was no question about the meaning of The Substitute. The title works on several levels. Locke becomes a substitute teacher, but six main characters are also listed as potential “substitutes” for Jacob. Not-Locke is a substitute for Locke.

What do you think? Was this enough new information to start to bring everything into focus? What did it leave you most curious about?


45 thoughts on “LOST: “The Substitute”

  1. My theory of the “alternate world” is that it’s what their lives would have been like had Jacob not gotten involved with (ie messed with) them. So it makes sense that Ben Linus could be a teacher off the island.

    Also, just an aside, but I always thought that when George killed Lennie in Of Mice and Men it WAS a mercy killing.

  2. Excellent notes as always, BTD Greg – thank you.

    I didn’t catch that Kate was not on the wall anywhere, and doesn’t correspond to any of the Numbers. And yet, Kate was one of the earlier touches by Jacob. Gotta think about that one.

    LOVED Sawyer in this – all the saltiness, but with a better actor. Even though it was supposedly a Locke episode, it was all about Sawyer for me.

    I thought it was interesting that he brought up the book – not only because we saw him read it in the past, but because with the exception of Juliet’s book club, Sawyer is the only character that reads (and writes).

    Looks like we have several groups of people important to Jacob – Temple Others, Barracks Others, Candidates, Off Island Followers.

    I was buying MIB’s story to an extent, and now wondering as other fans have if it’s not as obvious as Good Guy vs Bad Guy. The stone throw might have been telling us more than that Jacob is dead – that the theory is dead?

    I’m sure elsewhere there is much discussion of who the kids was, and what he meant. Personally I think he’s no one in particular, and that he meant that MIB can’t kill Jacob (and get away with it/and think he’s rid of him).

    Can’t wait to hear what others think of this ep – a classic!

  3. Smokie/Not-Locke finds a machette in the jungle that looks familiar. Does anyone know where we’ve seen it before?

    Is that Eko’s machette?

    Great write up!

  4. Think about it, young Ben seemed to be in the care fo the Others (where he was brought by Kate after being shot by Sayid) at the time of the Incident in 1977. How could he be off-island?

    Sayid would never have been there to shoot him in the first place, having never crashed on the island and, therefore, never gone back in time to do so.

    Also, I’m less certain that the nuclear detonation is the difference between the two timelines. There may be more time-travel shenanigans to come, with something occurring even earlier than the nuke, but, given the barracks under the sea, after DHARMA got to the island. (There’s even the possibility that the LA-X timeline happened first and was tinkered with to create the timeline started in Season 1.)

  5. |Ben’s eulogy was brilliant: “John Locke was a believer, he |was a man of faith. He was a much better man than I will |ever be. And I’m very sorry I murdered him.” I also liked |Lapidus’ aside: “The weirdest damn funeral I’ve ever been |to.”

    I could have swore that Lapidus said something to the effect of..” this is the weirdest show I’ve ever seen”
    which gives the quote much more meaning and irony. I believe I still have it recorded I will have to re-watch.

  6. Might be crazy, but when Ilana put the ashes in the bag I thought about Harry Potter…and the scene where the Phoenix dies and turns into ash. Jacob could actually be the little boy…and perhaps he’s been reborn Phoenix-style? We’ve only been thinking about Locke’s reincarnation or whatever, but what if it’s really Jacob’s rebirth? It’s a classic sci-fi/fantasy device.

  7. Do we know Adam and Eve in the cave are actually a male and female? What if they’re the original Jacob and Smoky?

  8. I’m wondering if Jacob and MIB/Smoky are brothers, and Adam and Eve were their parents.

    I feel like Ilana might be Jacob’s offspring.

  9. LT, I like that theory. Perhaps “You can’t kill him. It’s against the rules” is supposed to mean you aren’t ABLE to kill him… the rules of the game won’t allow it to work. Jacob’ll keep coming back… (with the other interpretation being “you aren’t ALLOWED to kill him”…).

    Kind of like Aslan in Narnia, or more specifically, Jesus?

  10. Never mind the Adam and Eve idea…I just looked it up on Lostpedia. I’d forgotten that Jack definitely identifies them as male/female, and mentioned the decomposition as evidence they died about 40-50 years before.

    That would probably mean it’s unlikely they’re MIB and Jacob’s parents either.

  11. 40-50 years earlier? Are we sure? That would put death in the 50s or 60s, which other than the one flashback, is an insignificant period in this story.

  12. This was a great episode and made up for the weaknesses of last week’s.

    Not much else to say other than its awesomeness.

    Sun didn’t transport through time so Jin is probably the one.

    I can actually see being justifiably miffed at Jacob. Especially given the other timeline in which many people are still happy. You could argue Rose and Bernard would be better on the island and perhaps even Kate. We’ll see what happens with Jin and Sun. Maybe they are setting it up to have half the people better off and half worse off?

  13. Thanks Allison – so it looks like Jack said 40-50 years based on the deterioration of the clothes, but Locke later said that clothes could deteriorate much faster than that. Plus, we know that the Temple Others and sometimes other Others wear what appear to be old clothes that are in rough shape.

    I can only conclude then that the date of death for Adam and Eve has much wider possibilities.

  14. I sort of assumed that the boy was a young Jacob. And I thought the warning about killing being against the rules applied specifically to Sawyer. Not-Locke can manipulate him, but can’t just out and out kill him.

  15. Kevin, I got that impression too. But there was also that bit about recruiting which makes me think the killing is more about Jacob than Sawyer.

    As for why Kate wasn’t on the ceiling – that’s a good question. I think she’s going to be a key figure this season. She clearly was picked by Jacob though.

    My guess is that the not-Locke is looking for a replacement for his place on the island just like Jacob is. I think it would be ironic if the Adam and Eve figures turn out to be Jack and Kate taking the places of Jacob and not-Locke. Remember that they had a black and a white rock much like those in the caves last night.

  16. Clark – interesting idea because it does make sense that if Jacob was looking for a replacement, so is MIB.

    As for the kid, I honestly don’t think he’s anybody special. I feel certain (but happy to be corrected!) that he meant that MIB can’t kill Jacob. The implication is that either there will be consequences because of what he did, or that Jacob lives on in some other form – which could be in the form of his followers, the spirit that spoke with Hurley, or a replacement.

    I keep thinking about Ben and Widmore too – Ben saying that Widmore broke the rules by having Alex killed. They all seem pretty fast and loose with killing intruders (Losties, US Army, Rousseau’s team, Dharma), but maybe in the “spirit” of Jacob’s restrictions, they can’t kill each other once they become Others.

  17. Here are some morning after, off-the-cuff thoughts about the relationship between Jacob and Smokie:

    -Jacob brings people to the island, seeking something from them–possibly his replacement. (Although, Jacob appears for all practical purposes to be immortal, so is he just hoping to retire?)

    -Smokie, we know, has a role in peering into people’s souls and discovering their pasts, and rendering judgment on them. Think of the famous stare-down between Smokie and Mr. Eko, perhaps the first time that a key scene in a television drama needed to be analyzed frame by frame to be truly understood.

    -What if, when Smokie performs this soul-searching and judging role, he is working for Jacob as Jacob’s indentured servant? As long as Jacob is around, Smokie may be compelled to continue to act in this role, which he despises. But if he can succeed in having Jacob killed, which he did, he can quit his day job and seek other vocations. So while Smokie has been scheming against Jacob for a long, long time, he may not have always been working against him, he may have been working for him (in the sense that Jacob controlled his day-to-day fate and Jacob worked for him in the sense that a servant works for his master).

  18. Interesting thoughts BTD Greg. I also keep thinking back to MIB saying that “they come, they destroy, nothing changes” or something to that effect – as though he doesn’t like it that the island/people get destroyed, which seems to be a by-product of *Jacob* bringing people there.

  19. What if, when Smokie performs this soul-searching and judging role, he is working for Jacob as Jacob’s indentured servant?

    Interesting idea. Let’s take it step further: what if Smokie is a Jinn, compelled into service of Jacob? Read the Wikipedia entry on the Jinni. Some of the descriptions (assumes human form to mislead or destroy; live in remote areas; can possess; can travel very quickly, etc.)

  20. My last post was cut off. I meant to finish it thusly:

    Some of the descriptions (assumes human form to mislead or destroy; live in remote areas; can possess; can travel very quickly, etc.) seem to apply to Smokie…

  21. What about what is in my mind the biggest question posed by this episode?

    Who will replace Jacob? This a major question that I think the writers are now obligated to answer before the end of the season.

    Only six candidates left? Frankly, Kwon and Jarrad just don’t seem that compelling as choices. I just think it wouldn’t be satisfying to see their characters end up with that particular destiny. Shepard, Ford, Reyes, and Locke could all fill that role and I can see it as satisfying for an audience.

    Locke, of course, would have to come back to life. “Nothing is irreversible,” is a line that keeps coming back to me. Locke, of course, always has had a communion with the Island, so that would perhaps be the most pedestrian and obvious choice.

    Ford and Shepard are interesting possibilities because it would complete a long evolution for both of them. Ford from selfishness to selflessness. Shepard from a skeptical, rational world-view to being a guardian of something so mysticial as the Island.

    Right now I think the Dark Horse “Candidate” is Reyes. I like him primarily because something about his interaction with Locke outside the office reminded me of the Jacobian interactions he has with characters as he steers them toward fates of one kind or another.

  22. The other thing that I find myself thinking about is this idea of replacement and substitution. We already have seen Claire as the new Rousseau. Now we know Jacob will likely be replaced.

    I think it very likely the writers might be headed toward a reset where the same stage is set but with different players in familiar roles. What this means is that we’ll quite possibly see a new Smokey/MiB emerge. Perhaps a new Alpert.

  23. I don’t think it’s critical that Jacob be replaced. As MIB said, if we can believe him, there are options for the Candidates.

    If anything, I think it’s important that each of the key players choose their own path and develop as humans – if one of them becomes some immortal being living out the centuries on that island and trying to find a replacement for themselves, I think I’d be disappointed.

    Remember, MIB said the biggest question was “why are you here?” and I think that’s the far more relevant question – where I think MIB is wrong is that the *only* reason they are all there is because they are Jacob’s Candidates. The more important issue IMO is why are they “lost” as individuals, and how will they ultimately “find” themselves.

  24. Would be very cool to find out if there are other name on Jacob’s cave wall that are not crossed off.

    I’m hoping for…

    108 – Hume

  25. Here’s how much of a nerd I am:

    My first reaction to the shot of the turntable playing “Search and Destroy” by the Stooges was “That’s wrong.” Why did I say that? Because “Search and Destroy” is the first song on side one of Raw Power and the tonearm was shown in the middle of the side.

    Like I said, NERD.

  26. Brian V, yep. And the record stopped playing after that song, which wouldn’t happen.

    Still, it’s pretty cool they used a Stooges song.

  27. The not-Locke smoke monster as Jacob’s servant would be more in keeping with the situation in Shakespeare’s The Tempest which all agree is a major influence.

    The parallels with the Jinni are quite interesting as well.

  28. Love that LA X Ben is a fussy teacher. He would be the one nagging people about cleaning up. I bet he hangs cutesy rhyming notes about throwing away leftovers and wiping up spills in the microwave.

    I’m a little surprised Ilana didn’t want to bury Bram and the other bodyguards.

  29. I’m not prepared to take anything the Fake Locke says at face value. So I take his explanation of the reasons the Losties’ names are on the walls, and the whole Jacob-replacement story, with a good dose of salt. For one thing: if everyone’s name on the wall has a number next to it, and only the Losties’ names correspond to The Numbers, then what does that have to do with the Dharma Collective? Why were those same numbers etched into the metal plate at the Hatch?

    On a related note: did anyone see the interaction between Fake Locke and Sawyer as two people trying to con one another? Fake Locke attempting to con Sawyer into joining him, but also Sawyer possibly playing the role of enthusiastic recruit at the end as part of his own con? I suspect Sawyer may be adopting a role of a recruit as a wait-and-see approach to determine what this person is really up to. As the saying goes, you can’t con a con. Sawyer saw right through “Locke” immediately — he knew that he was dealing with another person. And I can’t imagine Sawyer so quickly trusting someone he doesn’t know.

  30. Yes I LOVE that Sawyer is back to his salty self, and can run a con even when dead drunk, and that it’s that prospect that brought him out of his mourning. Definitely the best one to take on MIB – well done writers!

    As for the numbers, chatting with a friend who suggested the obvious: the numbers have been a theme, one giant easter egg if you will, that coincidentally appear on everything either individually or in groups. There is no ultimate meaning, just more coincidences that bring all these people together.

    There may still be a reason Kate isn’t one of them, or that the Kwons share a number, but it could be that there just weren’t enough to go around.

  31. Clark, I can believe it. Just as we are supposed to believe that all these people have run into each other prior to the crash in random ways, I think the numbers are just another thread of coincidences that tie the whole thing together.

    And give fans something to chew on!

  32. Ryan, I thought at first that the boy could be Aaron, although I think it’s less likely. The clothing he wore suggested it was Jacob in a different guise. And I don’t think Fake Locke would have been as freaked out by an appearance by Aaron, especially since the boy spoke with knowledge about the “rules.”

    On the other hand, I’m open to the possibility. It seems more than coincidental that the blond boy appears at the same time that Claire returns (also apparently wearing Island garb), and a week after flash-sideways Claire spontaneously shouts Aaron’s name. And with all the time-tripping everyone’s gone through, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he is Aaron.

    My money is still on the boy being a form of Jacob.

  33. I think it’s more that they want there to be some ultimately unexplainable mystic force behind the island. Something that “just is” without invoking pseudo-scientific explanations like George Lucas did Phantom Menace.

  34. I’m on board with not answering every question. Great stories are open to interpretation decades and centuries later, so why not Lost?

    Plus, if they leave a few things dangling, it leaves the possibility of a feature film, spin off series, etc.

  35. Just in case the Thunderdome comparison isn’t making sense to people, I have the saying “two men enter one man leaves” rule in mind.

    Obviously it’s a lot of people enter and perhaps it’s more than one leaving(?) … but clearly there is a process of elimination going on …

  36. I’m curious to see if/how the mystical properties of the island are tied into its physical properties. Is it that it’s a physically unique and powerful place requiring or attracting divine intervention, or is it the place’s divine presences that give it it’s strange physical properties? Or are those things simply inextricable from one another like matter and inertia?

  37. Maybe Kate gets a pass from the game (since she wasn’t listed on the ceiling) and she’ll be the child-bearing mother for Jacob’s final selected replacement male to keep his legacy going on the island. They did make Kate mom of Aaron. (OK, I’m just having fun with this one).

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