LOST: “What Kate Does”

More Lost. That’s a good thing. Tonight’s episode wasn’t as exciting as the finale—the pace was considerably slower—but it wasn’t terrible, either.

Spoilers from last night’s episode after the jump.

Links and miscellanea

  • Unlike a few of his co-stars, Daniel Dae Kim will be doing more television after Lost: he’s been cast to co-star in a Hawaii Five-O reboot next season. Staying in Hawaii must have been too tempting to pass up. Kim claims he’s stopped theorizing about where the show is going. (Looks like this spin-off is not going to happen after all.)
  • Here’s another article talking about how disappointing Lost’s ratings are (a mere 12 million live viewers for the season 6 premier). (A more positive spin here.) I’ve written before why this gloom and doom is overstated, but I’ll sum up: the loss of viewers is inherent to serialized dramas, especially ones as dense as Lost; Lost has tons and tons of people who watch online (more than any other show, last I checked); DVRs mean time-shifted viewing that doesn’t show up in live ratings; and despite relatively low ratings, Lost kills in the power demographics that advertisers love.
  • Here’s a fun video of Newsweek staff members who have never seen Lost before, trying to figure out and explain what various clips from the show mean.


    If you’ve never watched Lost before, season 6 is not the place to start. This has probably been true for at least four seasons.

  • Here’s a TV Guide interview with Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet), including her speculations on what her cryptic message to Sawyer may have meant.
  • IGN interviewed Hiro Sanada, who plays the Japanese Other in charge of the Temple.
  • I don’t think I’d seen this one before. Someone has created a more-or-less comprehensive Lost time line.
  • I have linked to this before, but the site has been updated quite a bit since then: DHARMA Initiative labels for every occasion.
  • If you’re looking for the latest Cuse and Lindelof interview try PopWatch. Or you can watch the Jimmy Kimmel interview they did after the season premier aired:

  • Finally, here’s an interview with Nestor Carbonell talking about his character, the ageless Richard Alpert.

Observations and speculations

  • The title, of course, is a reference to the second season episode, “What Kate Did,” where we first found out why Kate is a fugitive. It looks like we’ll get character-centric episodes, with flash-sideways to to LA-X universe, this season.
  • When Sayid regains his consciousness (and his life), he appears to be the same person that he was when he was shot during Operation Jughead. Theories that Sayid is something or someone else (or swapped places with LA-X Sayid) appear to have failed.
  • “Of course he’s fine. He’s an Iraqi torture who shoots kids. He definitely deserves another go around.” Sawyer has a point, you know. The Island’s logic never seems to make sense from a normal-person morality. Whatever is motivating the Others, or Team Black, it’s not what we would think of as truth and justice.
  • The cab driver also played the creepy puppetmaster in the apparently canceled Heroes. He doesn’t have much to work with here, but does fine. And yet another Arzt cameo.
  • Miles’ sardonic humor is a bit muted so far this season, but this line made me smile: “As you can see, Hugo has assumed the leadership position, so that’s pretty great.”
  • When the Japanese Other, who we now know is named Dogen, sees Hurley, Jack and Miles with Sayid in the Temple courtyard, he says, “What are you doing?” with a phrasing (attomari suru) that could also mean “What are you becoming?” Then, we Jack starts asking questions, Dogen says (I think), “Don’t say anything.” Just before the scuffle, he says, “Take him.”
  • Where did Sawyer get his gun? Did he swipe it off an Other? That part seemed unclear. Sawyer’s exit from the Temple reminded me of the “every man for himself” Sawyer from the first three seasons.
  • Aldo’s gun looks familiar. It’s appears to be a Walther P-38.
  • Remember Aldo? Kate doesn’t. I barely do. He’s played by Rob McElhenney, who also plays “Mac” on “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.” Unless I’m mistaken, this is the first time we’ve been able to identify a Temple Other as an Other we’ve seen before. [Edit: With the exception of Cindy, the Oceanic-flight-attendant-turned-Others-convert.] Aldo’s a bit high strung. He can shove a pistol in someone’s face and say (without irony), “Everybody calm down!”
  • The Others seem very concerned with keeping the Losties safe. Jack seems to have realized this (chalk one small victory up to Jack) and seems to be leveraging this knowledge.
  • Scruffy mechanics are always willing to help attractive female fugitives in need. It’s a law of television, I think.
  • The torture scene was bizarre and unsettling. Unlike the torture Sayid is familiar with, Dogen didn’t ask any quesitons or really seem to want anything from Sayid at all. It was a “test” but Sayid failed. I’m not sure what was supposed to happen if Sayid was not “infected.” When Dogen finishes the torturing, he says, “Good. This is enough” (presumably, to make his “diagnosis”).
  • I have to question LA-X Claire’s judgment. It’s not wise to start hanging out with dangerous fugitives, even if you’re new to the country and don’t have any friends yet.
  • Aldo claims the Others are protecting the Losties from the “pillar of smoke that makes a ‘ticka ticka’ sound when it’s pissed off.” But then, we knew that. The real question is why.
  • Justin the Other protects Kate from tripping “one of Rousseau’s traps” (or is it one of Claire’s traps?) and Kate repays him by letting him get flattened by a net full of boulders. Moral: don’t ever trust Kate.
  • Dogen describes Sayid’s condition as “keigansarete shimatta,” (a form of the verb keigan suru) which his translator says means “infected,” saying there’s no literal translation. This could be translated as “he has been turned into something.” It could also mean “judged as being,” which has interesting implications when you think about the Smoke Monster and its judgments.
  • When Dogen offers the green capsule to Jack, he asks him, in Japanese, to get Sayid to swallow it. The translator claims that “it won’t work unless he takes it willingly.” Why not? Is this some sort of selective poison that depends on the consumer’s state of mind? Odd. Or are the Others trying to make someone other than themselves responsible for Sayid’s death?
  • Dogen displays some Ben-like manipulation skills, trying to play on Jack’s guilt to get Jack to do what he wants. Luckily Jack’s been there, done that. Our Jack is finally growing up.
  • All this business about the “infection” is interesting. It makes me think of Rousseau’s research team, and the odd way they behaved after being attached by Smokey. Could this be the same fate that awaits Sayid, and (according to Aldo) has already taken Claire?
  • Sayid tells Hurley he is not a zombie. This, of course, is foreshadowing season 7, affectionately known as “The Zombie Season.”
  • Sayid knows he didn’t pass the “test.” Never torture a torturer and think you can put one past him.
  • In the jungle, Jin is looking for Sun and Kate is looking for Claire, but also kind of hoping to rekindle something with Sawyer.
  • I’m not really sure why Claire had to go all the way to the United States from Australia to give her baby up for adoption in the first place (other than, of course, plot contrivance). Seems needlessly complicated. And what if, you know, the Baskum’s break up before you even get there?
  • Otherville does not look good. The HOA is just not doing its job. Sawyer’s still moping about Juliet, and is pulling up the floorboards of his old bungalow to find some stuff he hid there in ’77, including an engagement ring he had been saving for Juliet. Poor guy.
  • Ethan Rom is not an Other Man in the LA-X universe, but a friendly obstetrician named Dr. Goodspeed. Recall that Ethan was the Others’ doctor before Juliet arrived. Dr. Goodspeed can tell that Claire is 3 cm dilated and 80% effaced without doing a pelvic exam. Which is just as well because that would have really creeped me out. [EDIT: Some more information about what we know of Ethan is appropriate here. Recall that Ethan is a child of DHARMA: the son of Horace and Amy Goodspeed. When we last saw infant Ethan, he was among the DHARMA women and children who were put on the sub to escape the “Incident.” In the island universe, Ethan survived Ben’s purge and become an Other physician, soldier and spy. Recall that a youthful Ethan went on the mission with Ben to steal Alex from Rousseau. In the LA-X timeline, he survived the incident and likely was raised in the United States, becoming a friendly obstetrician who doesn’t like sticking needles in people for no reason (as opposed to Ethan Rom who absolutely loves it).]
  • Sawyer sits on the dock pining for Juliet and Kate apologies profusely and repeatedly. This is the same dock were Locke blew up the sub, Galaga.
  • The name “Aaron” seems to trigger something with Kate. At this point, I’m thinking that the LA-X Losties have some vague recollection of the events that happened after the crash. There was a similar moment when Kate saw Jack at the airport, and when Jack saw Desmond on the plane.
  • Dogen tells Jack that he speaks in Japanese through a translate because he has to remain separate from the other Others to set himself apart as their leader. At the risk of bringing back the painful memories of Bai Ling’s acting, recall that Jack’s tattoo means “he walks among us, but he is not one of us,” which we’re lead to believe means that Jack is a leader, apart from those he leads. So a comparison is being made between Dogen and Jack.
  • Dogen says he was “brought” to the island “like everyone else” and claims that Jack knows “exactly what [he] means.”
  • Jack’s play with the green capsule was pretty good. But then, Dogen’s explanations (“I can’t explain what it is, there isn’t time” and “trust me”) were extremely week.
  • Kate uses the alias “Joan Hart” at the hospital. Melissa Joan Hart played TV’s Sabrina the Teenage Witch, a show that co-starred Beth Broderick, the actress who plays Kate Austen’s mother on Lost.
  • A page in the hospital calls for “EKG tech to 3-1-5.” 3-1-5 is not a significant number, but 3-1-6 is (it’s the Ajira flight number, as well as a reference to the New Testament scripture John 3:16). This could be an allusion to the fact that, in the LA-X universe, things are similar, but not the same as they were. We may have a whole new set of numbers in the LA-X universe, too, ones that are not cursed for Hurley, for example.
  • At the end of the episode, Dogen tells Jack that Sayid has been “meisareta,” a passive form of the verb “meisuru“. The translator says this means “claimed,” but a more literal translation would be “stamped, engraved or inscribed.” Dogen explains that “there is a darkness growing in him,” and tells Jack that the same thing happened to his sister, referring, we can only assume, to Claire (Jack’s half-sister). How does Dogen know Claire, let alone that Claire is Jack’s half-sister?
  • In the final reveal of the episode, Claire (or whatever Claire is now) shoots Aldo and Justin, the Others that try to re-capture Jin. Jin is caught in a bear trap—perhaps one set by Claire herself? It’s nice to see that we should be getting some answers on what’s up with Claire soon.

I thought this episode was okay, but not great. For whatever reason, Kate-centric episodes tend to be middling. There was a noticeable drop off in the writing from last week’s premier, but it still moved things along enough to keep it interesting.

The worst part of the episode? Even after watching it to the end, I’m still not sure what it is Kate “does.”

Anyone notice anything I missed? Confirm or refute any theories?


50 thoughts on “LOST: “What Kate Does”

  1. It went by way too fast. I got spoiled by the double episode last week… When Dogen talked of Jack’s sister being “claimed,” I was reminded of how Ethan was giving Claire the shots that he did in an effort to ward of a sickness she was bound to get…. Then his talk in the LA-X world of not giving her any shots or medicine that she doesn’t want was creepy, remembering the injections he gave her against her will way back when.

  2. I’m just glad to see Claire again, missed her.

    The scene with Sawyer and Kate on the dock was very moving and so sad. Well, now what?

  3. I liked this better than last week. But 2 questions.

    Would it kill Jack to ask what the infection is?

    How many characters have we seen that speak some other language and then at some point just drop it and speak english? That whole thing is a little tired.

  4. It’s not particuarly relevant to this episode, but I’m toying with a new, half-baked theory: that the Man in Black (Esau, Smokey, whatever you want to call him–I’ll be glad when we finally have a name) is relatively speaking more good than Jacob and his followers. Because, think about it, what sort of evidence do we have that Jacob is any kind of benevolent being? The Others are pretty brutal and ruthless–a bunch of fanatics who truly believe in the ends justifying the means. Jacob apparently has no problem with luring people to the island, just to make them his servants. MiB seemed to genuinely expect people to be grateful that Jacob was no longer around to control them (“I’m very disappointed with all of you!”). Maybe he has a point. Maybe MiB wasn’t looking to win that round of backgammon and declare himself King of the Island. Maybe he was truly trying to find a way to liberate himself and everyone else from Jacob’s tyranny.

  5. Terrible episode. One of the worst ones I can think of. My wife and I were both annoyed throughout the episode. Stuff like, “I can’t explain what it is” and “trust me” bug me to no end.

    I realized last night why I have lost almost all interest in the island narrative and am enjoying the LA-X narrative so much and it’s because we’ve seen the island narrative. Many, many times. Sawyer gets a gun, points it at everyone and says don’t follow me. Then a small group of people follow him. And there’s someone in power who plays mind games. And Jack doesn’t ask obvious questions. Blah blah blah. I don’t care anymore, it’s all the same story, over and over and over again. But it was funny, the moment I saw the “next week on Lost” and saw Locke, I immediately thought, “finally, something interesting.” Locke and Ben are still an interesting part of the island narrative. Kate, Jack and (another new, important character) Japanese guy is BORING!

  6. Theory on the poison pill: Jack had to be the one to kill Sayid because Dogen and his people can’t – the same way that MIB couldn’t kill Jacob, and had to get someone else to do it.

    John K – I see what you are saying re the convenience of dropping into English, but in this case, I think it represented an important plot point. Dogen has made it clear that he speaks Japanese to remain above his charges (further supported by BTD Greg’s sharing that the form of Japanese is superior) – so by speaking English to Jack, he’s saying he considers him and equal.

    Very important I think, that in spite of Richard following the Locke route based on the 1954 visit, Dogen has identified Jack as a true leader. I believe this will be critical to how this thing ends.

    Speaking of, I have to say that I am really liking Jack this season. I thought his blind quest to blow up Jughead and “return to normal” was stupid and regressive in his character development. In the first three hours of this season, I think we’ve seen a new Jack – much wiser, humble and yet aware of what’s going on, introspective but not brooding, finally assuming a real leadership role (not the play acting leadership of early seasons). Best line: “I don’t even trust myself – why would I trust you?”

  7. RE: Miles’ line about Hurley being leader, I also chuckled at his mention that he and Hurley would be in the Food Court when Jack asked to speak with Sayid alone.

    I hope at some point Sawyer is able to get back to at least a semblance of his old self so he can hurl the zingers he used to that cracked me up, typically his ever-changing labels for Hurley…

  8. My wife didn’t watch it with me last night so she could watch it with the kids today. So, when I woke up this morning I told her the Japanese guy only has four toes and that Richard’s parents are Rose and Bernard.

  9. Did anyone else notice that one of the Others that help Sayid after he was tortured was the Pilot that was pulled from the plane in the first episode?

  10. OK bear with me on this one – I’ve been struggling to figure out how it is possible for there to be two realities, unrelated and conflicting, at the same time. For the story to end, clearly they either need to come together, or one of them has to be eliminated. So something a friend said got me thinking ….

    What if LAX is in fact the aftermath of the story – what happens after the show ends? What if by the end of the series, they do manage to reset and the plane never crashes. But the show is over, so the producers are telling us that story now.

    There’s been some hint that the LAX versions of people just might have some memory of what happened (Jack recognizing Desmond, Kate’s look at Jack as she left the airport, and her start at hearing Aaron’s name – all explainable, but maybe not). So what if when we get to Sawyer’s story, he runs into Juliet and has coffee with her? He doesn’t know her, but they have some connection they don’t understand and it draws them together (just like Kate stopping to help Claire when she didn’t need to).

    Already, most of the characters appear to be slightly different in LAX – Rose seems at peace with her illness, Jack isn’t as screwed up about his father, Boone seems over his sister, Locke doesn’t come off as such a loser.

    What do you think? Is the show that really pushed the boundaries of telling stories out of order going to end with the ultimate coup of having us realize in the final moments that we already know what happens to them all?

  11. And how perfect that a show that took so many beloved characters away from us over the years – Charlie, Shannon, Boone, Eko, Ana Lucia, Locke, Libby, Juliet, Rousseau, Alex, Michael etc – finds a way to credibly give them all back to us?

  12. Hi Everyone….soooo glad to be back with LOST and back with you on Kulturblog!

    I may have missed something but I have been wondering how ‘smokey’ could be in the temple when it is clearly ‘owned’ by the other others. Remember when Rousseau’s team were there )the temple) and the one guy (Montague?) was pulled into the whole by ‘smokey’ and pulled his arm off. Just wonder how this was ‘smokey’s domain’ to now be a place he cannot enter (via the ashes) and seems to be controlled by the others. Sorry if this is something I missed but I keep thinking how and when did this takeover happen. Maybe smokey was ousted and then took over the cabin (since Illana said “he has not been here in a long time” and the ash ring was broken) and we know that the words “help me” came out of ‘smokey’ to Locke. Anybody have any thoughts or ideas or things I missed on this subject?

    I did not really like the episode last night and hoped that the writers would answer our questions this season instead of bringing about a whole boat load of new questions.

    COMPLETELY freaked out to see Ethan…I never liked him on the island and seems even creepier as a ‘nice’ doctor in LA. Why not bring back better characters and ones that would hold answers and not more questions. Oh well….love LOST no matter what and hope more answers from now on instead of more head scratching. We will see….

    Thanks everyone for any replies…..

  13. Also, Joan Heart was an alias that Kate used way back in Season 1, so since the LA X universe is still taking place in 2004, it makes sense that it would be a name that was in her current repertoire.

  14. I think Jenny’s on to something. I could totally see one of the very last scenes of the show be Sawyer and Juliet sitting down for coffee. It would be very emotive. Of course, that would mean the odds are that Jack and Kate will end up together.

  15. Jane, I’m thinking that either 1) smokey lived under the temple which does not count as in the temple or 2) while Jacob was alive smokey was limited in some way that made it okay (hence when they learned Jacob died they started freaking out and locking down the perimiter)

  16. I forgot to ask: Ethan must have been Horace Goodspeed’s son born on the island. At what point did births from conceptions on the island become unstable?

  17. Kind of a disappointing episode in some ways. It has that worst element of Lost – characters who don’t ask obvious questions. Several of us watching also found the cinematography kind of typical television. As opposed to some of the directors who did some visually interesting stuff. (Especially J. J. Abrams)

    Kind of disappointed that Claire has been contaminated although it Shepherd is actually the Nemesis it makes sense as Claire was in the house with him.

  18. The first time I watched the episode (yes, I’m rewatching it; no, I have no life) I misheard this exchange:

    Dogen: [chuckle]
    Jack: What? Did I say something funny?
    Lennon: I doubt it. He doesn’t really have a sense of humor.

    What I thought Lennon said was, “I doubt it. You don’t really have a sense of humor.” and I laughed and laughed at that. It was the highlight of the episode for me, except it wasn’t even real.

    I’m pretty sure Aldo is the one who punched out Jack in LA X. In that episode I thought it looked like someone we’d seen before, but I couldn’t place him.

    Oh, and as for the title of the episode, at one point, Jin asks Kate, “What are you doing?” and she says, “Escaping.” So maybe that’s what she does? I don’t know, I agree it’s not really clear what Kate “does.”

  19. Heather P, I thought that’s what Lennon said too, and I thought it was really funny. Too bad.

    Other than that, I thought Miles’s line about Hurly was pretty good.

  20. I’ve seen the theory on several sites that the LA X (reset) timeline is what happens after the show is over and they’re just showing it to us now. I’m REALLY hoping this isn’t the case.

    The Island itself has ingrained itself so deeply into my enjoyment of the show, that to to think of it destroyed and sitting at the bottom of the ocean would feel like a complete betrayal. I would feel like I’ve been watching the show for the past 5-6 years and now they’re going to make everything like it never happened. Unfortunately, the vibes I’m picking up is leading me to believe this what the writers are doing…

    (I’m starting to feel like Ben… protect the Island at all costs! hahaha!)

  21. FHL – it’s never been confirmed, but there’s a general theory that pregnancy issues originated with the Incident in 1977.

    Ethan was evacuated with other mothers and children in advance of it (along with Miles, Charlotte and perhaps Ben too if he was back with his father at that point and not still with the Others at the Temple being healed).

  22. I’ve seen the theory on several sites that the LA X (reset) timeline is what happens after the show is over and they’re just showing it to us now. I’m REALLY hoping this isn’t the case.

    I’m with you. I see this as plausible, but unsatisfying.

  23. There’s been many times over the years that I’ve thought “they better not …” and “it would be better if …” and somehow they’ve always come through.

    I resisted flash forwards, I resisted Smokey not having a practical explanation, I resisted time travel, I resisted Jacob as an actual being (I thought it was a name for the island itself at one point), I resisted “moving” the island (still don’t like that one actually).

    But somehow, they always come through for me – even when I think I don’t like a character or an episode, on reflection, I find myself sucked in and loving every second of it.

  24. I think the LA X timeline occuring after the show ends could be satisfying, depending on how it’s executed.

    The title of this episode and everyone’s difficulty concluding what “does” refers to, supports the theory. It’s as if the writers are saying this is the ultimate, definitive timeline, not an alternate reality. “Does” as opposed to “doesn’t” in another time or place.

  25. Let’s unpack this LA-X-as-epilogue theory a bit. How exactly does this happen? It seems like there are two possibilities:

    1) Something in the Island timeline, other than the Jughead incident, triggers something that brings about the non-crashing of 815 in September 2004. Time travel and yet another incident would be required; or

    2) The incident caused the genesis of two co-existent universes, LA-X and Island to form, and at some point, the Island universe will collapse, causing the LA-X universe to remain as the only future.

    It seems to me that No. 2 is the more likely scenario, but how will this come about? Will the Losties somehow realize that LA-X exists and do some conscious act to destroy the Island? Or will it be inadvertant? Will Desmond play some roll in this outcome?

    I have to say I don’t care for the LA-X-as-epilogue scenario because it feels too much like everything that has happened over the last five seasons would be negated. It’s too much like the “it was all a dream” or a snow-globe ending.

  26. LA-X-as-epilogue bothers me a lot. Probably only because the reason I love Lost is that I _can’t_ figure it out. I can outline the main plot points of all other TV within the first 10 minutes of every stinking episode. Not a chance with Lost.

    So, it would really bother me if this is where the writers are going.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that maybe some of LA-X characters retain memories from the island time line? Like maybe Kate remembers Claire, but for whatever reason she’s not sure if Claire remembers her? Or maybe Desmond knows exactly who Jack is?

  27. Brian, excellent point re “what Kate does” – the titles have always been important, so rather than just a play on a previous title, this could absolutely be a clue.

    BTD Greg, I’m thinking it’s neither. The detonation sent everyone back to 2007, and there’s only one timeline. What we’re seeing in LAX is what happens in the future, even though it’s 2004.

    Let’s reflect: clearly things are still going quite badly on the island in 2007, and are likely to get worse. Many are dead, Claire and Sayid are infected, several are yet to be found, and emotionally, they are all (for the most part) still “lost.” Perhaps where this is leading is another incident or action of some kind – Daniel’s plan for Jughead didn’t work as intended, and there’s still a case for trying to prevent the crash from ever happening (notably bringing back a lot of dead and saving Sayid and Claire etc).

    So the good guys go into battle with the bad guys, and ultimately, something happens that does what Daniel was trying to do in the first place – change history.

    Or maybe, everything we’ve seen *is* the alternate history – this group of lost souls needed all this, and each other, to sort themselves out.

    So in LAX, we see what happens after this ultimate clash in 2007. We do go back to 2004 (or prior perhaps, even to a time before Jacob and MIB got there, but only join the story where reality went off track in the first place, in 2004). Only this time, they aren’t lost souls any more – they are slightly different people as we are already seeing (Rose accepting her illness, Hurley stops beating himself up for being unlikely, Kate starts thinking of someone other than herself, Locke isn’t a loser, Boone isn’t obsessed with Shannon, Claire finds the strength to be a mom, Sawyer advises an easy mark to be more careful – the only one I’m still struggling with is Charlie).

    And, I think it’s possible that they will recognize each other – not by remembering what happened, but by somehow being joined and understanding one another etc etc.

  28. After this episode I have no doubt at all that there are “memories” (for lack of a better word) from the island universe among the Losties in LAX universe. Kate’s and Claire’s behaviors confirmed that for me. Otherwise, their actions are inexplicable. I was 50-50 on that before.

    Given time travel to the past and the resulting spawning of new, divergent universes (my preferred sci-fi theory), I tend to look at time not as a line, but a plane. Along one axis, the new LAX 2004 is “before” the Island 2007. (Let’s say X = 2004 versus x = 2007 for simplicity’s sake.) But on another axis, LAX 2004 is after island 2007 (arbitrarily, y = k versus y = k plus some delta), since LAX 2004 didn’t exist until something altered the past of the island universe.

    But the y axis has a far greater attenuation of memories between divergent universes than the x axis does along a single universe’s timeline. So it’s not like Kate’s going to say “Claire, how have you been? I’m glad you’re not dead in this universe.” It’s an emotional memory, similar to the ones amnesia sufferers are said to retain. For example, one won’t know the person who beat the hell of him during the period of lost memory, but will experience anger or fear at the sight of that person.

  29. Wayne and Jenny–interesting thoughts about the memories.

    A year ago, I rewatched season 1 and kept wondering if some characters were reliving the experience–they had crashed before, or they knew what to expect. Especially Kate and Jack, possibly also Sawyer. Definitely Locke. It was like they knew what was going on.

    And now, watching the LA-X timeline, it feels the same. I’m not sure if I buy this or not, but it seems to be more than just emotional memory. Maybe Kate remembers everything, but she’s not sure if anyone else does and there’s some rule in place to stop her from just coming out and asking.

    Well, uh, that would be the Lost rule where no one can ask a direct question and get a coherent answer. But still, it seems to me something more than just connected, joined together, emotional memory.

  30. I understand your concern, BTD Greg, but if the writers are going with LA X-Epilogue than they’re smart enough not to give the show a snow globe ending.

    One can already see that the characters recall one another and are piecing things together. We have 14 more episodes for this to culminate and pay off.

    Calling it an epilogue is misleading and unfair actually. I think it’s more of a final chapter that you view simultaneously with the penultimate chapter–a really fascinating dramatic structure that’s never been done before to my knowledge. You can understand why the writers might have found it irresistable.

  31. So didn’t anyone else see the similarity between Claire and Rousseau at the end? Claire looking all wild, shooting down bad guys. It is fairly suggestive that the traps are hers as well. That leads me to wonder if Rousseau was also “infected”. I’m not so sure I believe this infection is a bad thing. It’s just not something the Others seem to like. True, Rousseau seemed a little crazy but she certainly wasn’t evil.

  32. Great point Summer I’d never considered. However how was she infected? She never went into the temple. Everyone else did.

    Jenny, it’s pretty clear it’s 2004 and not 2007. Remember Kate was cleared of charges. And would the same police officer be with her?

  33. my head hurts.

    I have tried to figure out where this is going, and as soon as I think I have a plausible explanation I find it difficult to articulate to someone else.

    After the last episode, I think I am going to give up and just enjoy the ride. I imagine Season 6 will be one that I will need to watch again (much like the season 3 finale).

  34. This is a theory I haven’t really thought through: I have wondered if what will reconcile the two time lines (LA X 2004 and Island 2007) is the act of being observed. I don’t know quite how that could work, but it was just a thought.

    Also, Summer, Claire (probably) had her infant taken away from her, and so did Rousseau. (We don’t know the circumstances under which Christian ended up with Aaron by the fire. We did see the scene where Ben stole Alex.)

  35. This is a theory I haven’t really thought through: I have wondered if what will reconcile the two time lines (LA X 2004 and Island 2007) is the act of being observed. I don’t know quite how that could work, but it was just a thought.

    Ah, the Schrodinger’s Island theory. So who does the observing? Desmond? Jacob? Anti-Jacob?

  36. I can’t say the return of Claire is at all welcome, but I’ll be interested to see where they take it.

    Claire’s appearance at the end of the episode might be the first time in the history of the show that we see what someone who was actually stranded on an island for an extended period would look like.

  37. Please let me apologize in advance for going off in the time-travel weeds, but I’ve been kicking some things around. My preferred theory regarding backward time travel is that the reality following the point of arrival in the past begins to diverge from the reality that was before the time travel occurred. This seems to be what we’re seeing in the LAX 2004 reality that follows the 1977 nuclear detonation, which hadn’t occurred in the 2004 of Season 1. In one reality the plane goes down, but not in the other. Okay.

    Where it gets to be more complicated is what 2007 we’re looking at. Our time travelers flashed from 1977 to 2007, presumably, an instant before the nuclear detonation. (Otherwise, they would have been in much worse shape when they showed up in 2007.) But they did all sorts of other things before flashing forward. And let’s not forget the other time-flashing that went on when the island was dislodged from time. What about all of that?

    I’m assuming, based on the events at the temple and the foot of the statue, most notably the flare (or crappy fireworks) that went up from the temple and was observed at the foot of the statue, that our 1977 Losties ended up in the same 2007 that those who went down with the Ajira plane are in. How is that? Is this due to special properties on the island, or is time travel allowed to work this way? Can Lost violate causality?

    Sun saw the 1977 photo of Jin et al after returning to the island. Does this mean that they entered a divergent reality during their travel to the island? Was the 2004 of Season 1 a reality that was already subject to the results of the actions taken by the Losties in 1977? Or was the photo somehow brought from one reality to another?

    And how does any of this fit into the experiment Faraday did (from Lostpedia):

    In Daniel’s timing experiment, the beacon was mounted on a tripod with a clock on it. He then phoned the freighter, getting Regina. He asked her to send a “payload” in a small rocket to the beacon. Regina did so and began counting down the geographic arrival of the payload in rapid 5-kilometer-steps, starting with 40 km. But when she reached zero, the rocket had not reached the beacon. Regina said that it was “weird” while Daniel responded that it was “far more than weird”. The rocket did eventually arrive a while later. He compared the time on a digital clock from the rocket with the one from the tripod and saw that they were different by 31 minutes, 18 seconds. Daniel commented that the result was “not good”.

  38. Brian, to be fair they did have lots of supplies your typical stranded person wouldn’t. I mean I bet Tom Hanks in Castaway would have killed for a regular Dharma air drop. (Which still hasn’t been explained yet I believe)

  39. My musings have brought me to a not-so-great possibility. What if we’re looking at a loop in time created by repeated 1977’s alternating between nuclear explosion and no nuclear explosion? What if Sawyer’s ultimately successful mission becomes going back to prevent Juliet from being dragged into the hole, thereby preventing the bomb from detonating? If he does this, time proceeds along the original path we watched in Seasons 1 thru 5, leading up to the detonation. It always ends the same. Everything that happens before is just progress. So the LAX 2004 can continue beyond whatever point in time Sawyer goes back to prevent the detonation in the alternate reality, perhaps into eternity. But the non-detonation, Oceanic-crash reality plays over and over because of the jump forward just before the detonation. What if this loop is the trap Jacob sets to achieve a form of immortality and the prison that keeps Nemesis from going wherever home is?

  40. Tooth whitener? They had toothpaste and I’d presume makeup was part of the regular Dharma drop since it was almost certainly resupplying the Dharma “town.”

    Wayne, that’s interesting and would be a way Nemesis could hook Sawyer.

  41. Also remember that the Losties were only lost on the island a few weeks. (Despite it being over four seasons) By the end of that time they were either (1) dead (2) transported back in time to become Dharmaites or (3) living in civilization. There was then a three year gap, but that ought not affect anything since Jack and company were on the island the second time at most two days.

    So the show seems like it’s taken a long time but really hasn’t (beyond the several year gap in the middle of the time line)

  42. Can Anti-Jacob occupy more than one body at the time? I’m thinking not…though I have no concrete evidence to support this.

    I wonder is Sayid is ‘infected’ by something else…or someone else…

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